A quick question for everyone...
May. 24th, 2007 12:59 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
olde_fashionedHow many of you would be interested in color bars (or love bars, or whatever the heck they're called!) if I made them for various subjects? I've seen so many people using them, and I'd like to know if they'd be worth my time.
Here are two samples:
These are my first, but feel free to use them if you'd like. Just comment and credit as you would an icon, please! :-)
Here are two samples:
These are my first, but feel free to use them if you'd like. Just comment and credit as you would an icon, please! :-)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-06 04:31 am (UTC)LOL ! Not at all. I was stuck up in my first reply, apologies.
Yes, I am Mandy N from ROP; I suspect my views on NA2 have offended many people....May I ask if you a member of Pemberley ? :)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-06 04:36 am (UTC)I have no clue as to your age, so forgive me for asking! You don't have to say, I'm only curious. ;-) I am not one-and-twenty myself, and now that I know you're a JA fan I can use all the FUPS I want! LOL!
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-06 11:31 am (UTC)I cannot speak well enough to be unintelligble ;-)
I believe NA1 offers much to enjoy; so much of JA's own dialogue is preserved.
Lovely to see Bath- the Assembly Rooms where JA herself danced, the Pump Room and Royal Crescent. Hats were a special feature of the film and many costumes are authentic- love Cathrine's white and blue pelisse. :) I thought most of the cast like Mrs Allen, Catherine, Gen. Tilney well cast; the flashy Thorpes wre the burlesque charecters JA intended.
P. Firth elucidated his little lectures well but was too serious as Henry. Loved the walk to Beechan Cliff !
Well, don't know if that's anything you haven't read on the NA board before. ;-)
I do agree NA1 has serious mistakes;
it gothicizes NA with the music score and Greogorain chanting. The Abbey as a crumbly old castle is laughable. Also an extra marchioness.
Yet, I feel NA1 retained much of the letter of NA; and as NA is based on Udolpho, the letter & spirit of NA cannot be seperated.
I shall proceed with courage...
NA2 also gothicizes NA to a degree with an Abbey castle. Catherine's fantasies based on The Monk; a nasty, brutal book in it's treatment of women. In NA, Catherine's imagination revolves round secret scripts, gothic castles & Mrs Tilney's chamber. JA didn't write of her sexual fantasies.
NA2 Catherine spends time reading The Monk which she never read in NA. It seems odd people overlook that.
It was distasteful and irrelevant to NA for Catherine to squirm on the bed as Antonia, a victim- which NA's Catherine is not. Simply an excuse for the silly bathtub scene. ;)
I felt Isabella's seduction out of charecter for a calulating flirt with a pretty face yet no dowry to secure a good marriage; she is no Lydia.
Finally, I was disappointed at no Bath.
Repetitive angles and archways of King's Inn, Dublin put me in mind of the backdrop of The Flintstones. ;)
I did enjoy Sylestra de Tourzel as Mrs Allen. Also, 'nice' to see a proper Georgian theatre.
Well, I daresay I've ranted too much. Please excuse me. Presently, this is more than I'd state on the NA board at ROP (again).
Too much amused ! I'm late thirties, I'm afraid. May I ask your Pemberley name ?
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-06 10:31 pm (UTC)I use Elizabeth Sycamore over at RoP. ;-) I'm pretty sure we've both defended NA1 over on the NA board, and I'm glad you've come over here. Why don't you join LJ? One of my friends here has started a new NA community called
As far as NA1 goes, I know it has it's "issues" but I love it anyway! And I'm always happy to talk about it, whether or not we've done it before elsewhere. ;-) PF is about the only element that I really don't like, along with the creepy Marchioness and the lame music. I think the casting as far as Catherine, the General, Eleanor, and Mrs. Allen is perfect. And like you, I adore the costumes, especially Catherine's blue hat! :-D
I don't really expect to like NA2, but I do think the pics I've seen of it so far are pretty, hence the icons. ;-) I was hopping mad (purist that I am!) about not filming in Bath! I agree with you in that I don't think Isabella would pull a Lydia. She's not stupid, just irritating. ;-) I'm rather angry at Andrew Davies for adding smut to JA the way he likes to do. I fear for S&S3! :-\
I like rants. Pray continue, if you wish! I'm enjoying it! :-D
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-07 03:45 am (UTC)Yes, indeedy. I recall Elizabeth Sycamore at Pemberley :) We've been in discussions on NA1 fashions and Mrs Allen. ;-)
Actually, I've been checking only_a_novel, then got diverted by your journal. lol !
Great to see an NA community. I may join later if they'll have me. ;) Currently, I don't have as much PC time as I'd like.
I agree NA2 is wonderful for Icons and it had some pretty Irish scenery.
Oh, mutual agreeableness. I thought AD totally renovated NA. It's too easy to add smut to films these days. Couldn't he be more orginal, more faithful at least in spirit to JA ? Alas, I share your fears for S&S3.
I hope I hadn't spoilt your first viewing of NA2 too much. If only it wasn't called 'Northanger Abbey'. Grrr !
Well, more rant; Btw, I admit much of this are not my own thoughts but certainly ideas I agree with. NA2 Catherine appeared an Isabella-in-training to me...staring back at men on the dance floor; I think JA's well mannered Catherine would look away.
Also, the screenplay got it pretty wrong with the gig scene; John pulls up the gig to remonstate with Catherine. She smiles and agrees to continue the gig ride. She could've jumped down or simply remained silent. (JA is clear Catherine felt 'kidnapped' with no opportunity to escape John.) In NA2 at the theatre, Catherine tells Henry she had no chance to escape- but she did !
I read a comment which I feel is very true- these charecters are rather shallow and lack any real moral core in contrast to JA's charecters. For e.g, NA2 Eleanor dismisses Frederick's seduction of Isabella by her comment 'She'll get over it'. What ! Can you believe Eleanor, a true Regency lady would say that ? As for Isabella 'getting over her seduction'- in Regency times her reputation would be ruined ! Very poor scripting...also, if Frederick seduced Isabella on promise of marriage, she could then sue him for breach of promise. Oh well, it didn't occur in JA's novel.
Well, I'd better hold my horeses here. ;)
May I say I do hope to see you soon at Pemberley, especially on the NA board ?
Many thanks for hostessing my NA2 rants. ;)
I will be back to visit soon and see only_a_novel again. To be honest, I think you journal people are too advanced for me.
Now I must prepare to go away for a long weekend.
Wishing you a very pleasant weekend, Elizabeth Sycamore.
Cheers !
Mandy N.
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-07 04:56 am (UTC)I'm sure that only_a_novel would be more than happy to have you! The more the merrier, I say. I wish I had more computer time as well, but I fear I'm more of a reader than a writer. I do check Pemberley almost everyday, and I'm reading along with the P&P GR, but the NA and L&T boards are my very favourites. :-) I've been trying to come up with something "interesting" to get the conversation flowing on NA like William L did with MP! I miss the bustling exhuberance from before, but I love how the NA board is so much more "cozy" than some of the others. If that makes any sense!
Thanks for your added insights into NA2. I'll finally get to see it for myself in January, February, or whenever the heck they decide to let us Yanks watch it! I don't have very high expectations, so no, you didn't spoil anything for me! ;-) I'll be sure to post a few rants of my own once I've seen it; both here on my LJ and on RoP. :-D
You may, and thank you! The same goes for you. It'd be nice if you joined LJ, and as far as journals go, it's really not that hard, and I'd be happy to help you set up your header/background and such. Plus you get to use all the fun icons! There are tons of JA fans here. ;-) But we need all the NA1 fans we can get!
Have a good trip!
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-11 04:04 pm (UTC)Yes; I hoped to find your biography on ROP too but no luck. ;-)
I was so glad to see your post on NA board; I know exactly what you mean- a small yet bustling board with regular and semi-regular posters.
Tell you what, if you post a discussion question, I'd be happy to post you a response.
Currently we're safe to have text discussions without 'intesting theories' on subtext. lol ! so let's hope the bustle keeps up.
I must admit these are collective views on NA2 rather than my original thoughts.
Thankyou for your generous offer of help, I do appreciate it :) but currently, I'm a member of other communities.
For the time, I'll remain a visitor.
Nice to chat with you and hope to see you soon. :)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-06-15 08:25 pm (UTC)Oooh, nice idea! Thank you! I'll do the same for you! We NA fans need to stick together, anyways. ;-D
Not at all. ;-) I completely understand not wanting to get too involved in yet another e-community! I have a membership over at C19 but I hardly ever go there, because I just haven't the time. Do you go there at all?
Nice to chat with you, too, and you are a very welcome visitor. :-D
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-25 05:24 pm (UTC)Hi, back again. Please tell me what C19 is, as I may visit it for fun.
Love your Regency hair-do instructions;
I recently cut my hair at shoulder-length but false plaits aren't a bad idea...Kate B. wore false hairpieces for Emma 3.
Now intial fuss on NA2 has calmed down and a certain 'interesting' poster ;-) appears to have quit ROP; some NA posters are trying to re-create the NA board as before- bustling yet cozy. Now ROP has resumed; love to see you on the NA board !
A couple of discussions have begun. :)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-25 08:51 pm (UTC)This is C-19 (http://c19.proboards53.com/)
Thank you! I simply love Kate Beckinsale's hair in Emma. :-D
You don't mean me, now do you? I haven't quit RoP -- I've posted some on Ramble and Emma, and when I last checked the NA board there wasn't anything to speak of. I would NEVER quit RoP!! I missed them too much during the hiatus! lol! I've remedied that now...
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-26 09:57 am (UTC)Hi again, Elizabeth. :-)
Oh, dear me No. I realize you usually do occasionaly ROP posts; Please don't quit ROP or the NA board.
I can't say much but another poster was disrupting NA discussion (and all of ROP) but he's gone.
NA discussion and chat can resume.
You didn't have to post to me but I really appreciate your NA post, thanks. :)
Just out of interest, I see Valancourt Books are a member of Live.Journal. Do you collect the Northanger Canon they are publishing ? I do.
Elizabeth, hope to see you again on NA board soon. Nice to chat again.
You know, i nearly lost my way to Live.Journal but I'm glad I found it again.
Now to visit C19th and thanks for link.
Cheers ! Mandy.
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-26 08:52 pm (UTC)Do you perhaps mean a certain "A.P."? If so then I'm glad to hear it.
No, I am not currently collecting those, but that doesn't mean I won't in the future. ;-P I am however interested in finding a matched set of all JA's major 6 works with Brock illustrations -- I don't suppose you know of a publisher?
I'm glad you found it, too! Enjoy C19 -- they're big North & South fans. ;-) Have you seen that yet, Mandy?
Adios!
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-27 05:49 am (UTC)Bingo ! A. Pest has left. ;-)
Dents, London were the original publishers of JA's works with the Brocks
illustrations...I don't know if there has been any recent re-publishing of Jane's works with Brocks pics.
However, ebay and Abe often have the novels with Brocks pics published circa 1900, at different prices and different condition; if that is any help.
Just out of interest have you visited http//www.solitary-elgance.com ?
Heather L has an interesting showcase of
JA Brocks and info.
Glad you enjoyed your holdiay and have a good weekend. :)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-27 06:38 am (UTC)This may sound very wicked...but I'm quite relieved! Mr. A.P. Troll was getting out of hand.
Thanks for the Brock info -- and yes I know about solitary elegance. Heather's great!
Ditto, and TTYL!
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-29 04:44 am (UTC)Hey again Elizabeth ~! Meant to say, I read Mrs Gaskell's Wives & Daughters and North & South ages ago. I took W&D on video out of my library, lovely series...an example of what AD gets right. :-) But have yet to view N&S.
Exactly so ! A. Pest behaved liked a troll. Nor did I appreciate Pest's ridiculous theories on subtext domineering ROP. ;-) Ah well, he's behind us now so won't mangle anymore group reads either. See you at ROP soon. :)
Re: Colour bars- Northanger Abbey
Date: 2007-07-30 04:58 am (UTC)You know what they say online about A.Pests....."don't feed the trolls!"
TTYL and see you @ RoP too! :-D