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"The American Family Association (AFA) launched the boycott yesterday because McDonald's joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce several months ago and placed an executive on the group's board of directors, in addition to donating to the chamber."

Are you sure you want to support gay marriage with your money? Because that is what McDonald's is doing with the profits that they make when you purchase their (not very tasty and not at all healthy) food. (and how come we can't have a Straight People Chamber of Commerce??)

No more iced coffees for me! ;-D

Note: I'm posting this for the benefit of those who would be grateful to learn about this boycott. If you're looking for a flame war, argument, or to push your pro-sodomite agenda, then please don't bother to comment. Comments will be screened and deleted if necessary.

(I'm also aware that McDonald's is not the only company guilty of this, so please don't start where-would-it-all-end-how-come-you're-not-boycotting-so-and-so-too. For the record, I still boycott Disney.)


The association asked McDonald's to remove itself from the chamber but the burger-maker declined, leading to the boycott. "We're saying that there are people who support AFA who don't appreciate their dollars from the hamburgers they bought being put into an organization that's going to fight against the values they believe in," Tim Wildmon, the association's president, said yesterday.

After meeting with Wildmon, the corporation refused to withdraw their support for the Chamber. "...In fact, McDonald's strongly told us that they are reaffirming their commitment".


One News Now article

Washington Post article

Boycott McDonald's

I for one say Happy Meals are not that great anyway; certainly not enough to keep me from denying the radical and liberals who enjoy forcing homosexuality down our throats my money. They don't care what we think because they think we're insignificant (and I heard an "expert" say as much on the news tonight!) and we keep giving them our money, anyway. I say let's show them!! If they don't want to listen to us, then they don't need to enjoy the music of our money that they dance to all the way to the bank, either.

Date: 2008-07-07 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olde-fashioned.livejournal.com
Firstly, I would like to thank you (regardless of our differences of opinion) for replying rationally and like an adult, and unlike a lot of the other commenters. It is telling of you as a person that you are able to overlook disagreements and not use "unfriending" as a sort of childish punishment. :-)

I am wholly opposed to heterosexual promiscuity, as well as any other form of sexual sin, whether it be committed with a man and a woman or otherwise. God doesn't discriminate, and neither does sin.

I disagree that America was founded on a lack of Christian virtues. I know it's currently politically correct and popular to say that the Founding Fathers were "deists" or even atheists, but the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of them were upstanding, moral, and God-fearing Christians.

I cannot speak for others, but sometimes I also disapprove of things because they are an "open door" to something else, something worse. For example, while I am against smoking and think it is the height of cruelty to expose a child to second-hand smoke, I do not think it should become illegal to smoke in the privacy of one's home or car. Likewise, if homosexuals were to be granted the right to marry, they might then begin to want Christian pastors to marry them, and cry foul and bring lawsuits against them for discrimination and hate crimes if they were refused.

Sin is not harmless. More than anything else, it harms the sinner, and the argument of "it doesn't harm anyone else" is hardly valid. Why not legalize drugs, or how about prostitution, so long as the parties are consenting adults?

Why is "because God said so" a valid argument? I grant that it may not be so to you, if you have no inclination to follow scriptures, but does that nullify their significance to me? Your saying my convictions (and therefore my beliefs and religion) is "not logical" is the same siort of discrimination as what you are objecting to in my condemning homosexual marriages.

As for the other statement that you brought up, I would not presume to try and understand all of God's reasons for creating us the way He did. If we knew all, and understood all, then we would be the gods, and there would be no point in surrendering our own imperfect judgment to His own.

Again, thank you for behaving like an adult and for commenting with your opinion. :-)

Date: 2008-07-07 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] librarianofdoom.livejournal.com
I have some counter-arguments that I'd like to discuss with you, but I'm not sure that spamming this post is necessarily the best way to go about it. If you don't object to a friendly debate, I'll be leaving you a message once I have some time to compose it (which may take a little while, as I'm at work.)

Date: 2008-07-07 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olde-fashioned.livejournal.com
Okay! Sure -- feel free to "spam" these comments if you like (I don't mind at all, honestly) or you can PM or email me. You know my email?

Date: 2008-07-07 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] librarianofdoom.livejournal.com
I was just going to use the LJ message service. No need to give out your personal e-mail account unless you want to.

I figured I ought to move it off this post because I tend to run on a bit (I have a weakness for parenthetical asides and long, circuitous sentences), and don't want to take up pages and pages of room. If you'd prefer to keep the discussion open for other people to contribute, that's fine with me too.

Date: 2008-07-07 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olde-fashioned.livejournal.com
That's fine. My email is listed in my profile and it's a Gmail account I set up for LJ, so it's open for everyone to see. ;-)

Either way, is fine with me. Whatever you're comfortable with. :-)

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