ITV Mansfield Park -- My Thoughts
Jan. 28th, 2008 12:40 amI have just finished watching ITV's skeleton of Jane Austen's Mansfield Park. I am most seriously displeased. I am now going to bring out my sarcastic weapons without any apologetic restraints and wield them with utter ferocity in the general direction of whoever is responsible of ruining this story. Do not read this tirade review if you are an ardent fan of this movie. (although I do not see how any could exist, haha) They seem to have kept the names and changed the rest. Why bother to adapt something if you're not going to tell the story properly???? Grrrrrrr…
I knew I would not like Billie Piper the moment the cast list was released and I saw her picture. Without seeming to “judge a book by its cover” she is not at all period-looking or suitably “meek” or sweet or downtrodden enough to play Fanny Price. At least Jane Austen’s Fanny, that is. I was left with the distinct impression that somewhere along the line, PBS was given the wrong tape and we were subjected to some non-Austen contraption designed to torture and confuse the viewer.
What was with the HAIR in this movie? Fanny has a bleach job (and a bad one at that!) while Tom and Henry looked like something a cat would drag in. Edmund’s hair was plastered to his head like he hadn’t taken a bath in weeks. And makeup? Lipstick?? *fans self*
Was Billie Piper’s idea of showing Fanny’s goodness and sweetness to run around all the time falling out of her dress, flailing her arms about like a crazy woman who thinks she was a chicken in another life? And that wheezing laugh of hers. Is that supposed to be endearing and sympathetic?? Where is Fanny’s heart? Her inner struggles, her moral convictions, her desire to be good, honest, and truthful? There was no emotion at all, and there was no drama -- unless you count confusion! I am so grateful that I had HAPPENED TO READ THE BOOK so that I knew what the heck was going on. I think the filmmakers were even more confused than their audience, sadly. Tom declares that “Fanny is the best girl alive” but what makes her so? There is nothing in the movie to indicate anything other than she likes running around with her mouth open, and watching people behind curtains. The latter worked for Colin Firth as Darcy, but I have yet to see anyone pull off the former with any success.
We were never given a clear reason of why Fanny dislikes Henry so much, other than his previous attentions to Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. (whoops, sorry -- I meant Maria and Julia). We don’t even know in a timely manner about Maria’s sin, or at all about Julia’s elopement, and how “Maria’s guilt induced Julia’s folly.” We are never allowed the crucial visit to Portsmouth where Henry goes and visits Fanny. We never even see Mr. Price and the rest of Fanny’s family.
The dancing scene for Fanny’s birthday was frustrating! The Waltz is not period correct! Gahh!!! I guess ITV didn’t want to go to all the added expense of fitting up a ballroom for a proper Regency ball since they spent all of their budget on getting period-correct hairstyles. I suppose they thought we, the ignorant audience, would enjoy a springtime frolic out on the grass where all the servants gather to gawk? The Bertrams have holdings in Antigua, and yet they cannot afford more than one measly fiddler to play music. The request of the song Portsmouth was an interesting choice, because of Fanny, but it is not the Portsmouth I am familiar with on my English Country Dancing CD. But perhaps there are two different versions. I really thought we might get a nice dance with candlelight and Tom getting away from his aunt’s card table and seeing Fanny’s “glossy spot” dress but alas, we are doomed to have a picnic.
The only thing I liked was the casting of Edmund, which surprised even myself. I thought he did a good job with what he was given, and in portraying Edmund in a less-than-clueless way. I think the character of Edmund would be easy to screw up. Did anyone else think the actor’s voice sounded like Paul Bettany’s? (oooh, there’s an idea. Stephen Maturin in a Jane Austen movie! Why not? We already got Mr. Pullings and Worley. hee hee. Anyone with the last name of “D‘Arcy“ simply HAS to be in a JA adaptation at least once…)
Speaking of which, what is wrong with a little RESEARCH???? William wasn’t allowed to wear his uniform when not on duty!!! It was all over the novel! (note to ITV filmmakers: there is this nice book called “Mansfield Park” -- you might not have heard of it, but you really should make an effort to read it sometime)
Mary Crawford was tolerable, I suppose, but only because everyone else was so bad! Was she trying to hitch-hike and get a ride from Edmund by showing her leg like that??? (my initial reaction was that she was a prostitute, and if I did not know the story in advance, I would have believed that throughout the duration of the film) Maybe that was how she was asking him to take her riding, because the first clue we get of that is seeing her perched atop a horse, YET AGAIN clad in red. I think the costumers believe that stupid, age-old cliché that only bad women wear red, and lots of it. Hmph. I was amusing myself by trying to decide who was showing more cleavage, Fanny or Mary. *snort*
Mrs. Norris? Hellooooo she was the evilstepmother aunt! Where was all of her abuse of Fanny? Where was her evil, cruel, devastating remarks to Fanny about her being undeserving? Where was her preferential treatment of Maria? Where was her matchmaking with the aforementioned spoiled brat and The Idiotic Dolt aka Mr. Rushworth? (I also thought she was too young, but that is just a personal preference.)
The music was a strange combination of I-don’t-know-what with an almost comedic element to it. I felt like I was supposed to seeing something funny or witty before me, when all I saw was a random selection of Cliff’s Notes: The Mansfield Park Edition. Poor Jane is probably rolling over in her grave. Either that or laughing her head off at ITV.
Oh yes! I almost forgot. The most flawless element in the entire film? The brilliantly inspired and truly moving performance of Pug.
I knew I would not like Billie Piper the moment the cast list was released and I saw her picture. Without seeming to “judge a book by its cover” she is not at all period-looking or suitably “meek” or sweet or downtrodden enough to play Fanny Price. At least Jane Austen’s Fanny, that is. I was left with the distinct impression that somewhere along the line, PBS was given the wrong tape and we were subjected to some non-Austen contraption designed to torture and confuse the viewer.
What was with the HAIR in this movie? Fanny has a bleach job (and a bad one at that!) while Tom and Henry looked like something a cat would drag in. Edmund’s hair was plastered to his head like he hadn’t taken a bath in weeks. And makeup? Lipstick?? *fans self*
Was Billie Piper’s idea of showing Fanny’s goodness and sweetness to run around all the time falling out of her dress, flailing her arms about like a crazy woman who thinks she was a chicken in another life? And that wheezing laugh of hers. Is that supposed to be endearing and sympathetic?? Where is Fanny’s heart? Her inner struggles, her moral convictions, her desire to be good, honest, and truthful? There was no emotion at all, and there was no drama -- unless you count confusion! I am so grateful that I had HAPPENED TO READ THE BOOK so that I knew what the heck was going on. I think the filmmakers were even more confused than their audience, sadly. Tom declares that “Fanny is the best girl alive” but what makes her so? There is nothing in the movie to indicate anything other than she likes running around with her mouth open, and watching people behind curtains. The latter worked for Colin Firth as Darcy, but I have yet to see anyone pull off the former with any success.
We were never given a clear reason of why Fanny dislikes Henry so much, other than his previous attentions to Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. (whoops, sorry -- I meant Maria and Julia). We don’t even know in a timely manner about Maria’s sin, or at all about Julia’s elopement, and how “Maria’s guilt induced Julia’s folly.” We are never allowed the crucial visit to Portsmouth where Henry goes and visits Fanny. We never even see Mr. Price and the rest of Fanny’s family.
The dancing scene for Fanny’s birthday was frustrating! The Waltz is not period correct! Gahh!!! I guess ITV didn’t want to go to all the added expense of fitting up a ballroom for a proper Regency ball since they spent all of their budget on getting period-correct hairstyles. I suppose they thought we, the ignorant audience, would enjoy a springtime frolic out on the grass where all the servants gather to gawk? The Bertrams have holdings in Antigua, and yet they cannot afford more than one measly fiddler to play music. The request of the song Portsmouth was an interesting choice, because of Fanny, but it is not the Portsmouth I am familiar with on my English Country Dancing CD. But perhaps there are two different versions. I really thought we might get a nice dance with candlelight and Tom getting away from his aunt’s card table and seeing Fanny’s “glossy spot” dress but alas, we are doomed to have a picnic.
The only thing I liked was the casting of Edmund, which surprised even myself. I thought he did a good job with what he was given, and in portraying Edmund in a less-than-clueless way. I think the character of Edmund would be easy to screw up. Did anyone else think the actor’s voice sounded like Paul Bettany’s? (oooh, there’s an idea. Stephen Maturin in a Jane Austen movie! Why not? We already got Mr. Pullings and Worley. hee hee. Anyone with the last name of “D‘Arcy“ simply HAS to be in a JA adaptation at least once…)
Speaking of which, what is wrong with a little RESEARCH???? William wasn’t allowed to wear his uniform when not on duty!!! It was all over the novel! (note to ITV filmmakers: there is this nice book called “Mansfield Park” -- you might not have heard of it, but you really should make an effort to read it sometime)
Mary Crawford was tolerable, I suppose, but only because everyone else was so bad! Was she trying to hitch-hike and get a ride from Edmund by showing her leg like that??? (my initial reaction was that she was a prostitute, and if I did not know the story in advance, I would have believed that throughout the duration of the film) Maybe that was how she was asking him to take her riding, because the first clue we get of that is seeing her perched atop a horse, YET AGAIN clad in red. I think the costumers believe that stupid, age-old cliché that only bad women wear red, and lots of it. Hmph. I was amusing myself by trying to decide who was showing more cleavage, Fanny or Mary. *snort*
Mrs. Norris? Hellooooo she was the evil
The music was a strange combination of I-don’t-know-what with an almost comedic element to it. I felt like I was supposed to seeing something funny or witty before me, when all I saw was a random selection of Cliff’s Notes: The Mansfield Park Edition. Poor Jane is probably rolling over in her grave. Either that or laughing her head off at ITV.
Oh yes! I almost forgot. The most flawless element in the entire film? The brilliantly inspired and truly moving performance of Pug.
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:13 am (UTC)I still love the BBC's Mansfield Park with Sylvestra le Touzel as Fanny; it must be some 20 years old now, but it's still the best and most true portrayal from Jane Austen's books I've ever seen.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:20 pm (UTC)I need to watch all of it, since I only made it through the first half, but it's looking better and better let me tell you!
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:15 am (UTC)Seriously though, I now dread watching this, and am thinking of skipping it altogether. From the moment I saw the first publicity photos I thought Piper was miscast.
I'm grateful for your reviews though, and I missed hearing from you!
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:25 pm (UTC)You haven't seen it, then? Well, my one consolation for having lost an entire hour-and-a-half of my life is that I am now able to enjoy all the witty remarks over at AustenBlog. Ohhhhhhh those people are sooooo funny.
Thank you! I've missed our chats, too. :-) Perhaps you should PM me and we can try to set one up? Would that be agreeable, madam?
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:58 am (UTC)Did you see their production of Hardy's Under the Greenwood Tree? Total shit. I had to force myself to watch to the end.
They're not prepared to seriously invest in these productions, so these are the half-assed results. Pathetic.
I wish they'd just stop trying and leave it to the BBC.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:35 pm (UTC)The one with Keeley Hawes? Yes, I saw it, and I thought it was lame.
Hear, hear!
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:29 am (UTC)Apart from Pug's performance. Which was indeed inspired!
The possible disagreement (if that) which I have with you is that Billie Piper's hair is normally that weird colour with dark eyebrows, they didn't just do it for the production. I feel quite sorry for her. She's really a decent actress in Doctor Who but she cannot do period drama- she is simply too modern. Really misguided casting. I imagine the producers thought they needed someone modern to make Fanny "interesting". Bah. When will they learn that the book is not about Fanny's romantic journeys but about the failed romances of the people round her? Or at least so I see it. Grr.
Anachronistic waltzing. The claustrophobic feeling of the production because they were too cheap to get more than one location.
MP is such a subtle book- to be ruined in this way, even just by cramming it into one hour, is shocking.
-5/10.
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Date: 2008-01-28 01:09 pm (UTC)She can't do period drama. She was just not up to the task in Manfield Park and wasn't at all good in 'The Shadow in the North' though rewatching the previous Sally Lockhart BBC adaptation she at least didn't mumble her lines. The hair is silly.
Haven't seen the 'Call Girl' series but I think she is cast in things because she is very popular and so is seen as a draw.
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Date: 2008-01-28 01:05 pm (UTC)Billie Piper unfortunately does not have much of a "period face". I agree with the other commenter that she is too modern.
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Date: 2008-01-28 01:33 pm (UTC)The sad thing is that this new version is still my favorite, despite its flaws. I hate the version from 1999 (or so) for its horrible treatment of the writing. And the version from the 1980s frightens me, mostly because of the way all of the actors move their heads.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:46 pm (UTC)Well so far we're 0 for 3, in the way of a brilliant adaptation. Phooey.
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Date: 2008-01-28 02:35 pm (UTC)http://zaftig46.livejournal.com/29983.html
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Date: 2008-01-28 02:43 pm (UTC)If I hadn't read the book, I never would have been able to figure out a single thing about any character. And since I've read it, I was only able to gape at how badly each person was interpreted. There was nothing to show how Fanny was good, nothing to indicate why she didn't trust Henry Crawford, and I just wanted her to stop running! Why are hand-held cameras suddenly so popular in costume dramas?
The hair was appalling. Fanny wearing her hair loose?? I love Billie Piper on Doctor Who, but she cannot do period drama.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:22 am (UTC)Rubbish! LOL!!
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Date: 2008-01-28 03:31 pm (UTC)I've been watching the ITV adaptations on PBS and so far I'm not impressed. I think I hated NA most of all. Persuasion was the only one I could believe, a little bit. That's stretching it.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:36 am (UTC)I agree.
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Date: 2008-01-28 03:34 pm (UTC)So yes, in conclusion, it was pretty awful. I think what sets Mansfield Park apart from other novels is the character of Fanny and how she is so different from most literary characters. Her selflessness and struggle should have been front and center in the film, but instead the producers completely left out all character development.
I was disappointed, but for some reason it seems Mansfield Park is one story that is very difficult to translate on screen.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:48 am (UTC)I don't think it's any more difficult than any other of JA's novels, I just think it takes a lot of work to do it right. I think Fanny's meek nature irritates the filmmakers and they try to change that, and it starts the ball rolling and it ends up ruining the whole plot. You can't change a crucial detail and then expect the rest of the storyline to fall back into place smoothly.
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Date: 2008-01-28 03:59 pm (UTC)So I haven't yet seen it. Maybe tonite, if I have nothing to do. I'm a little perturbed with Masterpiece Theater since they have such a high level of quality. And I'm surprised with Andrew Davies. I've been watching some of his older productions of other authors for BBC, and they were faultless, although 6 hours long.
I think Masterpiece Theater is going to be a little embarressed after showing these. *sad*
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:52 am (UTC)Andrew Davies is not responsible for MP, or Persuasion. He only wrote the new NA and S&S which has yet to air.
They have shown duds before, IMVHO. They can't all be fantastic, and nothing will ever be as good as the Firth/Ehle P&P and North & South!
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Date: 2008-01-28 04:42 pm (UTC)One ITV producer asked another: "The Beeb's been doing this a long time, how are we going to make our Austen productions stand out?" And the other guy, after a moment's intense thought, said: "Lots of open-mouthed running."
I thought the actress playing Mary did a good job with the part she was given and had beautiful clothes. That's the best praise I can give this movie. Obviously ITV spent their whole budget for this one on signing Billie Piper, and couldn't even afford a second location! How implausible was it that they would all go away and leave Fanny home? And let Henry visit her alone in the house? I mean, yeesh!
I can see them cutting Yates and Julia's story for time, though. They had to cut something and that's a peripheral plot-line. But did they have to cut Fanny's personality from the book, too?
And the hair was torture.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:59 am (UTC)Yes, I liked Mary's clothes, even if they were very red. I like her parasol. ;-)
So can I, and that sort of change I can totally forgive. It's the running/gaping/laughing Fanny with bad hair and intuitive Lady Bertram and "nice" Aunt Norris that gets me! Gah!
Indeed! Excruciating... I need to go watch North & South to soothe my aching eyes. lol.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:58 am (UTC)Yes, we needed to see Portsmouth! That is so crucial. *shakes head at ITV*
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Date: 2008-01-29 06:11 am (UTC)The makeup was stupid. Do they think we wouldn't notice bright pink lips??
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Date: 2008-01-28 07:36 pm (UTC)I don't think I'm satisfied with any adaptation of MP. The first one had the creepy actress with her strange way of turning her head. The second, probably the best of the bunch, had the disturbing images of Sir Thomas' pursuits in Antigua. And we all seem to agree about this most recent version.
I just have to put in a good word for Billie. I do like her in Dr. Who and Ruby in the Smoke. I think she would have made a better Fanny, despite her looks, had the screenwriters, producers, MAKE-UP ARTISTS,...done their job with a modicum of care.
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Date: 2008-01-29 06:23 am (UTC)I can't spell her name, but Fanny in the '80s version played Mrs. Allen in the new Northanger Abbey.
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Date: 2008-01-28 07:58 pm (UTC)The story was butchered too much, it was too short and gave hardly any explanations at all. As you say, it isn't that difficult to find the book and adapt it!!!
Edmund WAS the best bit!!
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Date: 2008-01-29 06:30 am (UTC)I agree.
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:03 pm (UTC)I didn't like Billie Piper, either. Whenever she came on screen popping out of her dress, my roommate and I started singing "June is bustin' out all over" (sorry, inside joke, but the song just makes me think of lots of cleavage).
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:06 pm (UTC)Now that you point it out, it really was quite confusing if you hadn't read the book. Also, did Fanny have any actual lines in this version? If she did I can't recall much else other than "I was never happier" which seemed to be repeated quite a lot. And Edmund's hair was repulsive, though he did a pretty good portrayal. The randomness of the dance scenes made me cringe. And what was with the clunky opening scene? I am afraid I could not tell the difference between young Fanny's cries of despair at the tart, or her cries of joy at badminton. Very puzzling.
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Date: 2008-01-29 09:51 pm (UTC)I thought the "sob" over the tart was ridiculous.
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Date: 2008-01-28 09:44 pm (UTC)In response to a lot of the comments though: We can't blame this one on Andrew Davies. Iain B. MacDonald is the director for this latest iTV adaptation. I looked it up on imdb.com.
Can you believe that Billie Piper has been nominated for best actress for the "TV Quick Awards, UK"?? Is that what they call acting? I haven't seen her in anything else but based on her performance in Mansfield Park she couldn't act to save her life.
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Date: 2008-01-29 09:54 pm (UTC)Best actress for what? Running around with her mouth open? It's Sally Hawkins that deserves the gold for that trick, lol.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:33 pm (UTC)Mansfield Park is a hard novel to adapt, especially with modern audiences. The fact that Fanny marries her cousin throws a lot of people off. Not to mention Fanny seems to be a bit too much of a goody-two-shoes, for most characters to relate to her. Have you seen the 90s adaption?
The thing I'm so frustrated about with these movies is the fact that they are only an hour and a half long. You can't possibly fit a whole Jane Austen novel into that short amount of time.
I'm hoping that the bio film in MT's next segment of the festival is better than Becoming Jane. Now that is something I could rant about for a quite a few hours, if not days. Here's hoping that they don't try to act as Jane Austen had a "spicy" love life or heaven-forbid that she was ever considered running off and eloping.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:38 pm (UTC)characterspeople to relate to her."Urgh...I was reading my comment and I spotted this error. That's what I get for not previewing it first.
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Date: 2008-01-28 10:38 pm (UTC)Billie Piper was just not suitable for this role, and i'm sure in period times they never left there hair down and un-kempt like that. ITV is terrible with period drama's and they should really leave it to the BBC.
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Date: 2008-01-29 10:22 pm (UTC)Amen!
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Date: 2008-01-28 11:15 pm (UTC)Anyway. Looks like I didn't miss once. I'm going to see about finding it at the library/YouTube, just for kicks.
I didn't like the actress as Rose in Doctor Who--which I've mentioned before. She isn't really bad, but she sort of plays the dumb blond. I didn't really understand why the Doctor was so devastated when she was gone.
I am somewhat curious to read the book, though, because I watched the 1999 version (I think it was) and really did like it. But some of your commenters are saying it was creepy compared to the book. So maybe I can suck it up and get through the book. Oi vey.
P.S. You make me laugh.
P.P.S. I thought that this was produced by BBC and then transfered over to Masterpiece and whatnot? But everyone else is blaming ITV. *confusion*
P.P.P.S. I don't have high hopes for the Jane Austen film next week. "Austen Regrets"? It sounds like an angst teenager.
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Date: 2008-01-29 05:43 am (UTC)Fanny had very big lips? That's all you noticed? *snort*
Maybe Netflix would have it? *shrug* That is if you want to waste your slot on such garbage. Ha ha.
I didn't get the impression that Billie Piper was bad, just badly cast. Also I think she had no clue what the character of Fanny was about.
The version with Justine Waddell who plays Molly Gibson?
P.S. Thank you veddy much madam! *swoops hat and bows low* That was my intention! :-D I love to make people laugh.
P.P.S. No. This is made by another network (ITV) not the BBC. PBS/Masterpiece-formerly-Theatre buys the rights for those of us across the pond. They are only the distributors. That's like having CBS buy the rights to Doctor Who and having them show it on their stations even though they didn't make it. Does that help?
P.P.P.S. I kinda do. I liked Olivia Williams in Emma, and as I might have said before I have always thought she would make a good Jane Austen. Imagine my delight in hearing she had actually been cast! But I think it'll end up being the BBC's answer to Becoming Jane, unfortunately. :-(
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