A sad day for America...

[olde_fashioned]

While it seems the majority of the country is rejoicing our new president-elect, I cannot help but be saddened at the direction this country is taking. I am saddened that we have just elected an untried and inexperienced man and given him the reins of this country. I am saddened that we as a nation have allowed the politicians and the liberal media to effectively pull the wool over our eyes and project another flawed human being as a god-like figure. I am saddened that we have just elected a president who will sign into law the Freedom of Choice Act which will effectively sign the death warrants of an untold multitude of unborn children. I'm saddened that we have sent the most radical, the most liberal, and potentially the most anti-American person we've ever had run for president to the highest office in the land to take power in January. I am saddened that our politics have degraded and deteriorated to the point that I couldn't even find a decent Biblically-qualified Republican candidate to vote for without compromising half my values.

And most of all? I am saddened that most people are rejoicing at all of this.

Part of me feels like crying. :-(

Pray, people. Even if you don't live here, pray for America, pray for not only our country, but all those around the world that will be affected by our policies and our actions, pray that our enemies aren't tempted to test a new and inexperienced president, pray that none of our rights (especially our first and second ammendment rights) aren't trampled on or even eliminated, and pray that whatever wheels Obama sets into motion that they won't permanantly damage this country or the world. God is still in control no matter if the Democrats or the Republicans are in office, and He can still use people, even the likes of Obama.

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding."
~ Proverbs 3:5

What man intends for evil God often turns around and uses for good, so let's pray that this is another example. I don't understand why God let this happen, but He knows much better than me or anyone else, and if He can create all of the universe and everything in it, I think He can be trusted with an election.

The whole campaign everyone talked about Obama being an "inspiration" and about his bringing "new hope" to America in trouble times. Well guess what? Obama is only a man, a flawed, finite, tiny human being, and that's nothing, absolutely nothing compared to what God is. I don't trust polticians, I trust God. I don't put my hope in Obama, I put my hope in God.

"...put your hope in the LORD both now and forevermore."
~ Psalm 131:2-3

Obama promises hope and change, but God doesn't change. Politicians come and go, "but the word of our God stands forever." (Isaiah 40:8b)

So take that, Obama!

Comments

[noctia.livejournal.com]

I was going to refrain my will to speak my mind, however I cannot. At this day and age, people around the world must understand that everybody deserves a chance, and certainly Republicans have had 8 years to prove they were a good bet for the US. I do respect your religious views, but I also respect the opinion of the millions of Americans who are sick of war, abuse and torture. McCain has suffered as a PoW, but his fellow Republicans are illegally torturing people from all over the world who deserve a trial in a little place called Guantanamo. Individual freedom and rights will never be at stake. Omaba and his ancestors know all about being discriminated and want nothing more but the to ensure that EVERYBODY has the same rights. Maybe you do not know what is like to live in a country with no freedom of speech, but my own country has lived under a dictatorship for nearly 50 years. I have learned to believe that fundamental human rights must be ensured, and that includes the right of having FREE HEALTH CARE.
Once and for all, think for yourselves and do not let your local priest think for you. The Bible is there to be interpreted, and not to be followed blindly. God has indeed given you a brain, so use it. I do not want to be controversial or radical, but you must come to terms with the need for change. This isn't just about the US, but also about the world, and the world has spoken.

[littleflower518.livejournal.com]

"At this day and age, people around the world must understand that everybody deserves a chance"...


Except the millions of aborted babies.

[noctia.livejournal.com]

Babies are not babies until they are actually born.

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

Oh really? So an unborn child, one month short of full-term, which, if born premature, is fully capable of suriving on its own, is not a baby? A child in the middle of delivery, not quite yet born, is not a baby?

[gd2lstdrop.livejournal.com]

I think that if the woman and man didn't lie together, have carnal knowledge of each other, then this would be a moot point. Oh I know..perhaps if man laid with man and woman laid with woman, then there wouldn't be pregnancies? Of course we could repeal Roe v Wade, then the women/young girls who get pregnant can die from back room abortions because they can't face the stigma of being an unwed mother and won't carry the child to term. The only ones who suffer from this are women. Men don't suffer, it's not their bodies that carry the child. Would you want your daughter to have those choices?

[noctia.livejournal.com]

I just don't want women to die in the horrible conditions of illegal abortions and having paid (a lot!) for it. Abortions will always happen in the world and it's up to each individual to chose to be a responsible parent or not. This is common sense throughout most countries in Europe.

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

It's a pity that you don't have the same sympathy for a helpless human being that you do for a woman contemplating infanticide.

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

I think that if the woman and man didn't lie together, have carnal knowledge of each other, then this would be a moot point.

Exactly.

Of course we could repeal Roe v Wade, then the women/young girls who get pregnant can die from back room abortions because they can't face the stigma of being an unwed mother and won't carry the child to term.

I think you're missing the point. No one is making these women have sex. If they choose to "take the risk" then they should take the consequences. If they are too cowardly or ashamed to take responsibility for their actions, and accept being an unwed mother, then they shouldn't have committed the sin in the first place.

Men don't suffer

You can't tell me that when a man has no say in whether or not his child is aborted that men don't suffer.

Would you want your daughter to have those choices?

I would want any daughters that I might someday be blessed enough to be given, to be virtuous enough to keep themselves pure until they are married. If, however, by some lapse of morality they chose to give themselves away and became pregnant in the process, I would hope she would not seek to run away from her sin by committing another sin and taking a helpless life.

[reconditarmonia.livejournal.com]

I can't remember the statistic, but a large percentage of, if not most, abortions are had by married women who already have children. Even families sometimes can't afford another child; it's not just teenage girls.

[amore-di-libri.livejournal.com]

Hi. I was wondering if you mind clarifying your opinion of abortion when the sex isn't voluntary?

I'm pretty sure that the majority of abortions don't serve women who conceived through rape, and I'm not sure if the Republican platform allows for abortion when the sex wasn't voluntary, but if you don't mind answering, what are your personal thoughts on that kind of situation?

Just to lay out my own thoughts, I do believe that abortions should be allowed. But I'm a total middle of the road kind of person so I believe that abortions should be allowed in cases where the woman was raped, where the baby is interfering with the woman's health in a life-threatening way, and that everyone should go through a mandatory counseling session. I also believe that there should be restrictions on abortion after the second trimester.

[amore-di-libri.livejournal.com]

Actually, now that I look at what I wrote out, it doesn't really seem middle of the road at all, so I'm just going to take that part back.

[gd2lstdrop.livejournal.com]

Of course woman wouldn't get pregnant if they remained chaste.

"I think that if the woman and man didn't lie together, have carnal knowledge of each other, then this would be a moot point"

I posted this in sarcasm. True, I don't believe that abortion should be used as "birth control". I believe that it should be available in cases where the mothers life is in danger,rape or incest.

[reconditarmonia.livejournal.com]

After a child is born, its right to life does not conflict with anyone else's right to liberty. When it is inside a woman's uterus, its right to life is overruled by her right to liberty.

If I will die without a kidney, I do not have the right to take it from someone else. My right to life does not outweigh their right to liberty and sovereignty over their own body. This is true even if they have caused me to depend on them for the kidney.

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

After a child is born, its right to life does not conflict with anyone else's right to liberty. When it is inside a woman's uterus, its right to life is overruled by her right to liberty.

Well let's just hope that no radical liberal ever decides to allow people to consider the sick, helpless, or elderly as "impediments to liberty".

Using a kidney is not even close to a good example, as we are born with our kidneys and they help us function our entire lives. You didn't choose to "make" a kidney by sleeping with a man, any more than having a kidney in your body is temporary the way a pregnancy is. And the last time I checked, when you take a kidney out of a human body, it doesn't grow into another person.

[reconditarmonia.livejournal.com]

Whose liberty, specifically, would they be impeding?

I think you're getting confused with my parallel. The uterus, which is the organ I'm paralleling with the kidney, does not grow into another person either. The conceptus is using the woman's uterus. (Well, basically her entire body, including kidneys and bloodstream, but let's focus on one thing.) The parallel isn't exact, but you can kind of make equivalent the fact that pregnancy is temporary with the fact that you don't actually need two kidneys to live and with the fact that the person to whom you donate a kidney is not using it at the same time, is not connected to you.

Or, if you know anatomy, you could use liver lobes, which grow back. :)

I'm a bit perplexed. Are you saying that you condone abortion in cases of rape? I'd thought you didn't, but I may be mixing you up with someone else, sorry.

[littleflower518.livejournal.com]

I do not agree.

[ophelias-fate.livejournal.com]

I wanted to just say how much I totally and completely agree with you. I think you put that beatifully. :)

[avidbystander.livejournal.com]

I cannot say that I do not feel the gravity of the election's outcome. It feel like I woke up in a new country, and it is unsettling.

Ultimately, my hope is not in political powers but in God. "The king's heart is like channels of water in the hand of the LORD; He turns it wherever He wishes. Proverbs 21:1" I'm claiming Isaiah 41:10-"'Do not fear, for I am with you; Do not anxiously look about you, for I am your God I will strengthen you, surely I will help you, Surely I will uphold you with My righteous right hand."

My heart sinks at the thought of the Freedom of Choice Act passing. I think as Christians we must not passively stand by, and yet in all we do we must show the love of Christ. This is a miracle to achieve without the work of the Holy Spirit. It's impossible to do in our own strength. I pray that we may have not only a correct sense of right and wrong, but be the light of the world. That's what turns people toward Christ.

Good post. I admire your boldness to share! I hope you're encouraged by the verses above. I know you're probably familiar with them. :)

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

It feel like I woke up in a new country, and it is unsettling.

I'm trying not to think about it at the moment. :-/


"The king's heart is like channels of water in the hand of the LORD; He turns it wherever He wishes. Proverbs 21:1"

Thank you for that one!! :-D

My heart sinks at the thought of the Freedom of Choice Act passing.

Mine too. God help all the countless lives about to be lost! And God forgive those that enable them to do it.

Good post. I admire your boldness to share! I hope you're encouraged by the verses above. I know you're probably familiar with them. :)

Thank you very much, and they were encouraging, so thank you, too! :-)

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

I think it's a mistake to lump all Republicans in with Bush, the same way it would be a mistake to class all Democrats together. Not everyone condones Bush's methods and torturing!

Maybe you do not know what is like to live in a country with no freedom of speech

No, I don't, but I have this sickening feeling that we're about to find out. :-/

Once and for all, think for yourselves and do not let your local priest think for you.

I do think for myself, thank you very much. What right do you have to say that I do not? No priest has formed my opinions on this matter -- quite the contrary, in fact. Due to the pathetic excuses for leadership and pastoring we have in the church nowadays, I've had to read and learn entirely on my own instead. Considering as you don't know me at all, and I certainly haven't made public my own personal struggles on the matter, I hardly think you're qualified to judge if I'm "following anyone blindly."

God has indeed given you a brain, so use it.

I would appreciate it if you refrained from sweeping assertions and insulting remarks.

[noctia.livejournal.com]

I did not want to offend anyone, but as a defensor of Democracy, and considering that your multi-cultural country houses many more religions, creeds and faiths than mine, I cannot believe that freedom of choice is still at stake at this day and age. I am an Historian and never in my academic life I have encountered such unfounded uncertainty. Who have been the agents that have demonized Barack Obama? Give the guy a chance and do not fear for your own faith, which I totally respect, so the least one can do is to give other faiths, races and beliefs a change to prove their point. Abortion is NOT a crime, as the so-called "baby", foetus whatever, has no juridical personality. It might go against your religious views, but you cannot forbid other people from aborting.
And I truly hope that his middle name is not scarying people off...
Once again, I apologise if my plural points of view have shocked or offended you.

[olde-fashioned.livejournal.com]

Unfounded uncertainly? What is it that you regard as unfounded?

Who said anything about demonizing? The facts are fact, and I don't like them. It's a fact that he's going to allow and re-establish things in this country which are morally wrong, and nothing short of murder.

The "so called baby"?? That's a pretty callous way to refer to the state that you yourself once were. I think it is only a symptom of the dire depths that this world has sunk to that a tiny, helpless being is denied the privileges and rights given to chickens and cats, not to mention not even being considered a human being until it's deemed politically expedient.

Abortion is NOT a crime

Who died and appointed you judge as well as "defensor"? Why does your personal view that abortion is not a crime get to be any more "correct" than my view that abortion is murder?

[noctia.livejournal.com]

If I didn't consider my views to be correct then I wouldn't be defending them. My views allow other people to chose as they like, and this is what this debate is all about. What is imoral to your eyes is perfectly normal to mine. I do have principles, like freedom of speech, choice and to free health care, that I consider absolutely fundamental, but I do not force other people to think that way.
"Who said anything about demonizing? The facts are fact, and I don't like them."

If only you knew how much the rest of the world has wished for this day to happen... Right now, we applaude the US citizens for voting Obama. Citizens across Europe have rejoiced with the possibility of ending unfair and life-wasting wars, the possibility of lifting Cuba's embargo. There is a lot at stake, and as for abortion, I can cite many examples of how unfairily many Christians, not all, have handled the issue. I was once a baby yes, by my parents' choice who should have the right at anytime before the foetus becomes a human being to stop the process. Parents should only be so if they can raise a child with responsibility and love. I do not believe in God, or Christ as the son of God, and my views have to be equally respected for believeing that abortion is not a crime. I do not have your apocaliptic view (if I am allowed to call it so) of the world (or maybe that's just the fact that you did not want the Democrats to win the election as I am sure you'll feel a bit better in a few days), I don't think there will be a Judgment Day, but I am concerned about what we are doing to the world in an environmental perspective. For me, that's more of a priority because first and foremost the world is in a greater risk than laws allowing abortion. And I am going to be perfectly honest with you and running the risk of ignoring my views as an historian - I wish there were no religions in the world. They have caused so much pain, grief and destruction, greater than the little comfort it gives people with questioning their so feared mortality. I do not wish to impose my views to anyone. Maybe, and subliminally, we are equally "influenced" by the media in different ways. Again, I apologise if I have been offensive.