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How bad do you really want that Happy Meal?

"The American Family Association (AFA) launched the boycott yesterday because McDonald's joined the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce several months ago and placed an executive on the group's board of directors, in addition to donating to the chamber."

Are you sure you want to support gay marriage with your money? Because that is what McDonald's is doing with the profits that they make when you purchase their (not very tasty and not at all healthy) food. (and how come we can't have a Straight People Chamber of Commerce??)

No more iced coffees for me! ;-D

Note: I'm posting this for the benefit of those who would be grateful to learn about this boycott. If you're looking for a flame war, argument, or to push your pro-sodomite agenda, then please don't bother to comment. Comments will be screened and deleted if necessary.

(I'm also aware that McDonald's is not the only company guilty of this, so please don't start where-would-it-all-end-how-come-you're-not-boycotting-so-and-so-too. For the record, I still boycott Disney.)

The association asked McDonald's to remove itself from the chamber but the burger-maker declined, leading to the boycott. "We're saying that there are people who support AFA who don't appreciate their dollars from the hamburgers they bought being put into an organization that's going to fight against the values they believe in," Tim Wildmon, the association's president, said yesterday.

After meeting with Wildmon, the corporation refused to withdraw their support for the Chamber. "...In fact, McDonald's strongly told us that they are reaffirming their commitment".

One News Now article

Washington Post article

Boycott McDonald's

I for one say Happy Meals are not that great anyway; certainly not enough to keep me from denying the radical and liberals who enjoy forcing homosexuality down our throats my money. They don't care what we think because they think we're insignificant (and I heard an "expert" say as much on the news tonight!) and we keep giving them our money, anyway. I say let's show them!! If they don't want to listen to us, then they don't need to enjoy the music of our money that they dance to all the way to the bank, either.

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Ah thank you for letting me know!
i don't go there any more, because they also support abortion.

thank you!

Hey, there! This is Caleb. I've been reading Spencer's blog for a while. I want to thank you so much for standing up for what's right and being willing to take flack from close-minded people who hate God and anyone who tries to uphold morality. The really bigoted people are those who thumb their nose at God and refuse to tolerate His laws. We Christians are being discriminated against because of our beliefs and the homosexuals are trying to push their beliefs down our throats. May we continue to stand up for what's right and rejoice that we are counted worthy to suffer shame for His name!

Hi Caleb! I've seen you over on Spencer's blog, and welcome to my own! :-D

Thank you very much for your kind comment and support. We Christians do need to stand up, and stand up together!

I know you've got to grin about that...

Anyway, I think what you say in here is just silly. And it is, my the definition bigotry.

I'm all for gay marriage and do believe they are born gay. Scientist are on their way in proofing it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7456588.stm). But then again your God trumps scientific evidence anyway right?

Also I sometimes hear the argument that marriage is also a religious thing. Then why can atheist get married? My husband and I did, and we are both atheist. It's more of a legal standing in America, and I believe that gays will at some point get the right to marry.

And don't even start with "you hate god!!" I don't think it exists, you cannot hate what doesn't exist. I have plenty of Christian - open minded friends, people in my family are Christian and that's fine by me.

Do you have a list of companies who are known to officially support homosexuality? (As opposed to just have the unofficial "liberal" attitude towards everything ) *curious*

PS
Aha--I knew it was a good idea to talk my parents out of going there the other day ;-) !

I don't normally comment on these sorts of posts, but there's a first time for everything, right?

I'm all for boycotting McDonald's, since their food is disgusting in the first place, but it makes me very sad that this should be your (or anyone's) reason.

I believe that we should be celebrating the fact that two people want to come together in a committed relationship, regardless of their anatomy. I think that gay marriage is worlds better than straight promiscuity. Furthermore, I believe that the government has no business whatsoever deciding what kind of relationship gets privileged. We're talking about the *legal* definition of marriage here, in a country that was founded on the principle of separation of church and state. I don't care in the least whether churches x, y, or z recognize gay marriage. I believe that curtailing someone's civil rights solely on the basis of religious doctrine is fundamentally wrong, particularly when the "sin" in question does not harm anyone else. How can an expression of love and commitment between two consenting adults be harmful?

I have yet to hear a single compelling argument for why homosexuality is wrong. "Because God says so" is not a logical argument. It is only valid if you follow the same doctrine, and the United States encompasses a plurality of religions. "Because God intended sex only for reproduction" falls apart because, as one of my high school biology teachers pointed out, if God created genitals only for the purpose of reproduction, why put so many nerve endings down there?

I realize that you're just being up front about your opinion, and I don't plan to un-friend you (I enjoy your politically neutral posts, and, like you, I can hate the sin but love the sinner), but I did feel compelled to voice my opinion as well.

Good for you! :-D

I most certainly do NOT grin and congratulate myself on all the comments on this thread. I do not post such things for my amusement. I post them because I feel it is the right thing to do and because I want to stand up for what I believe in.

As for "proving" that homosexuals are born into a life of sin, scientists may claim that all they like. They could claim to have found proof of Marvin the Martian, or the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy, but that doesn't make it true. Scientists are (like the rest of us!) capable of twisting the truth, ignoring the facts, and willfully deceiving the public to pursue their own ends.

Like it or not, marriage was ordained by God, for Adam and Eve. I'm sure an atheist can go to church, too, and take communion or recite the Lord's Prayer. That doesn't make either of those things non-religious.

I think a person could hate something that does not exist, but the truth is that God does exist, whether you choose to acknowledge Him or not. He made you, and He loves you, even though you and all the rest who deny His existence grieves His heart.

Firstly, I would like to thank you (regardless of our differences of opinion) for replying rationally and like an adult, and unlike a lot of the other commenters. It is telling of you as a person that you are able to overlook disagreements and not use "unfriending" as a sort of childish punishment. :-)

I am wholly opposed to heterosexual promiscuity, as well as any other form of sexual sin, whether it be committed with a man and a woman or otherwise. God doesn't discriminate, and neither does sin.

I disagree that America was founded on a lack of Christian virtues. I know it's currently politically correct and popular to say that the Founding Fathers were "deists" or even atheists, but the fact remains that the overwhelming majority of them were upstanding, moral, and God-fearing Christians.

I cannot speak for others, but sometimes I also disapprove of things because they are an "open door" to something else, something worse. For example, while I am against smoking and think it is the height of cruelty to expose a child to second-hand smoke, I do not think it should become illegal to smoke in the privacy of one's home or car. Likewise, if homosexuals were to be granted the right to marry, they might then begin to want Christian pastors to marry them, and cry foul and bring lawsuits against them for discrimination and hate crimes if they were refused.

Sin is not harmless. More than anything else, it harms the sinner, and the argument of "it doesn't harm anyone else" is hardly valid. Why not legalize drugs, or how about prostitution, so long as the parties are consenting adults?

Why is "because God said so" a valid argument? I grant that it may not be so to you, if you have no inclination to follow scriptures, but does that nullify their significance to me? Your saying my convictions (and therefore my beliefs and religion) is "not logical" is the same siort of discrimination as what you are objecting to in my condemning homosexual marriages.

As for the other statement that you brought up, I would not presume to try and understand all of God's reasons for creating us the way He did. If we knew all, and understood all, then we would be the gods, and there would be no point in surrendering our own imperfect judgment to His own.

Again, thank you for behaving like an adult and for commenting with your opinion. :-)

No!! I heartily wish I did, and if you or anyone else reading this has one or knows where to get one, I would be very much obliged if they would share it with me! ;-D

P.S. I knew it was a bad idea to start getting their coffees because they're cheaper than Starbucks. :-/

I have some counter-arguments that I'd like to discuss with you, but I'm not sure that spamming this post is necessarily the best way to go about it. If you don't object to a friendly debate, I'll be leaving you a message once I have some time to compose it (which may take a little while, as I'm at work.)

Well I saw the science response coming, no shock there.

You may believe in god, I don't simple as that. I believe it is kinda like the Easter bunny, or tooth fairy, on a grander scale. That's fine with me that you believe it. Go ahaead.

But when you think your way - your thinking - not just in god - but in sexual preference is THEE way, the ONLY right way...there's something wrong with that.

Okay! Sure -- feel free to "spam" these comments if you like (I don't mind at all, honestly) or you can PM or email me. You know my email?

I was just going to use the LJ message service. No need to give out your personal e-mail account unless you want to.

I figured I ought to move it off this post because I tend to run on a bit (I have a weakness for parenthetical asides and long, circuitous sentences), and don't want to take up pages and pages of room. If you'd prefer to keep the discussion open for other people to contribute, that's fine with me too.

That's fine. My email is listed in my profile and it's a Gmail account I set up for LJ, so it's open for everyone to see. ;-)

Either way, is fine with me. Whatever you're comfortable with. :-)

I wasn't intending to shock you.

The same could be said of you, and your insisting that your way of thinking (i.e., that God does not exist) is correct, when it is sadly mistaken. I only hope you realize this before it's too late. :-(

Oh, no! I hope no one thought I was advocating that sort of "you're all going to hell if you don't do as I say" sort of religion. That's almost worse than none at all!! I know what harm it can do, and I think that's a sin, too.

I agree that they're very hurt, and need a lot of love from God and the Christian community, but I don't think that "accepting" their sins is going to be very loving. (and I'm not saying any of this is you, either...)

I do think I am correct, the difference between us is that I believe others can choose other ways. Can believe other things and have happy fulfilled lives, I don't insist that my way is the only way to live. That is is the correct way for everyone.

It is simply what I believe (or don't believe as it were) Others can make other choices, and that is just as well. I won't insist my son is an atheist, I will simple tell him what I believe and let him find his own way.

I believe others may choose their own ways, also -- I am just reserving the right to disagree with them and believe that their way is wrong.

I am glad that you have chosen not to force your son to believe that there is no God.

I'm almost afraid to comment here, because I happen to be one of those people McDonald's "supports" -- and I hope this doesn't result in someone getting nasty with me :( -- but I do agree with boycotting McDonald's. Their food is awful, and if it weren't for their coffee I'd try my hardest to never go back.

Well, basically I wanted to say that I really admire you for being able to post your opinions and beliefs, despite the possibility that someone may not agree, or even flame you for it. I'm far too afraid to do things like this, and I may not agree with what you've said, but I respect your opinion and I admire your ability to stand up for yourself.

I also hope that my admition does not cause me to be unwelcome here; I love your icons and I enjoy reading your public entries. ^^;

You are not unwelcome here, and you have no need to be afraid of me. I may disagree with your beliefs and lifestyle, but I am hardly one to start judging who is fit to view my public posts, homosexual or straight, saint or sinner. The Lord dined with sinners, and reached out to them, and we are supposed to be His salt and light on this earth. :-) So you're welcome to stick around if you like.

Thank you for not joining in on the "bashing" with the others. I am happy to "agree to disagree" and it's nice when others can, too.

That makes me feel very relieved. :)

I really hate "bashing," especially when it comes to someone's opinion because, uh, we all have our own, so the person doing the "bashing" is just being the smaller person. In my opinion, of course. So you won't see me bashing here. ^^; I don't usually like to discuss my lifestyle and all, unless I know someone agrees, because I hate hurting people's feelings and I hate having my feelings hurt.

So, ah, anyway. I appreciate how kind you are to me, even though I am a sinner in God's eyes. I do try my best, despite my lifestyle, and I'm especially trying not to offend people along the way.

I'm sorry if none of this makes sense -- I get nervous talking about this. :/

I just want to say I read your journal a lot and I have some incredibly different ideas about things. I am not religious and I'm not exactly liberal or conservative. My beliefs are actually a mixture of liberal and conservative views. I don't find very many people like me on earth so I'm used to disagreeing with people on all sides.

I find reading thoughts of people who are drastically different than myself in some ways is a lot more interesting than reading thoughts of people who are incredibly similar. So I do encourage you to express your views. That way I can try to understand your thoughts and I can also continue to enjoy your icons and graphics.

Thank you for taking the time to say that! :-) I agree with you that it's stimulating and interesting to converse with people of differing viewpoints, and I do enjoy it, so long as the person in question isn't trying to hammer their views down my throat, lol. ;-)

You are most welcome to express your views, as well! :-)

We're in agreement. :) I think I mentioned that my very sweet uncle, who is gay, was scared to death of meeting my dad when he heard he (my dad) was a conservative Christian.

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