ITV Persuasion -- My Thoughts
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olde_fashionedI've just finished watching the new ITV adaptation of Persuasion, and I must say, that I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would!
If you do not know that this is going to contain tons of spoilers, then conisider yourself duly warned.
To those of you who have seen it, what did you think?
I was not ignorant of the adaptation's flaws, thanks to RoP and various other communities online, so perhaps it helps knowing in advance and not being shocked by certain glaring omissions or apalling alterations helped a bit. ;-) I was very sorry not to see that one of my favourite scenes from the book, when one of the little Musgrove boys climbs up onto Anne's back, only to be physically removed by Captain Wentworth, had not made it into the movie. :-( I also did not care for a few members of the cast (Mr. Elliot and the Crofts, namely) and I kept getting strange sensations of desiring to punch Anne's obnoxious relatives in their officious noses. ;-P
Elizabeth Elliot was hideous. Mary Musgrove was revolting. My dad watched most of it and summed up Sir Walter very aptly. He called him an arrogant something, which made me laugh. ;-) I thought he could have been just a little bit more ridiculous (as he was in the novel) and there weren't enough mirror scenes -- (Which, btw, I caught a reference that we Americans only got to see a SHORTENED version. They cut out a scene with Anne and some old love letters, Mr. Elliot looking admirably at Anne on the Cobb in Lyme, and there might be others. *grrr*)
I also do not see what all the fuss is about Rupert Penry-Jones. He did not do much other than stand around and look grumpy at poor Anne. I confess I looked rather grumpily at poor Anne a few times myself, although that was only because the hairdresser had pulled her hair too tight. I did think Sally Hawkins did a very good job conveying Anne's loneliness and despair, and I loved the addition of her journalling. Very moving, and a great way to connect with the viewer, I thought. I thought it was especially so when anne was covering her mouth and sobbing after she thought Wentworth was to marry Lousia.
How on earth would Frederick convince Anne's father to sell Kellynch to an unseemly and obscure sailor, might I ask? That was the most unrealistic part, IMO, other than Anne trotting around Bath. Rather pointless, unless they wanted a breathless Anne to stand huffing and puffing before her love after she's chased him around half the city. Why was he as composed as could be and not even remotely out of breath, I'd like to know??? He was a Naval captain, not a track star. I think Cpt. Wentworth would have done better to buy Anne a pair of Nike's as opposed to a big house. ;-) lol.
Was Mrs. Smith's name really Harriet? I certainly don't remember that. I'll have to check my book later.
Oh! I almost forgot. One thing that I DID like, was that we get to hear Wentworth himself reading The Letter, not like the 1995 version where there is a double voice-over spoiling it entirely so that you can't hear a thing. I do wish they would have kept the novel's setting for it (not running by herself) but overall I liked this better than the Root/Hinds version.
*pauses, after rereading what I've written so far* I have this nasty habit of dwelling on the negatives of an adaptation, don't I? :-/ Sorry about that. I did like it though. I haven't made up my mind as to whether I'll be buying it yet, but I was very pleasantly surprised. I loved the costumes, if I did wish Anne would have worn something other than That Bonnet all the time, and the music was very lovely. I taped it (much to the dismay of my family...) so that I can watch it again at my leisure. That, for me, is the true test of a good costume drama. Either I get bored with it and have no desire to watch it more than a few times, or it grows on me more and more and I become increasingly fond of it. ;-)
Enough! I want to know what everyone else thought. :-D
ETA: Came across this article, (linked from RoP) and while I don't agree with everything this budding comedian says, I do whole-heartedly agree with this:
At the end of the film, as she is about to kiss Wentworth (oh, come on, you always knew how it comes out), her mouth twitches like a bass zeroing in on a tasty side order of plankton as her face moves slowly toward its target.
LOL!
Read the full article here
If you do not know that this is going to contain tons of spoilers, then conisider yourself duly warned.
To those of you who have seen it, what did you think?
I was not ignorant of the adaptation's flaws, thanks to RoP and various other communities online, so perhaps it helps knowing in advance and not being shocked by certain glaring omissions or apalling alterations helped a bit. ;-) I was very sorry not to see that one of my favourite scenes from the book, when one of the little Musgrove boys climbs up onto Anne's back, only to be physically removed by Captain Wentworth, had not made it into the movie. :-( I also did not care for a few members of the cast (Mr. Elliot and the Crofts, namely) and I kept getting strange sensations of desiring to punch Anne's obnoxious relatives in their officious noses. ;-P
Elizabeth Elliot was hideous. Mary Musgrove was revolting. My dad watched most of it and summed up Sir Walter very aptly. He called him an arrogant something, which made me laugh. ;-) I thought he could have been just a little bit more ridiculous (as he was in the novel) and there weren't enough mirror scenes -- (Which, btw, I caught a reference that we Americans only got to see a SHORTENED version. They cut out a scene with Anne and some old love letters, Mr. Elliot looking admirably at Anne on the Cobb in Lyme, and there might be others. *grrr*)
I also do not see what all the fuss is about Rupert Penry-Jones. He did not do much other than stand around and look grumpy at poor Anne. I confess I looked rather grumpily at poor Anne a few times myself, although that was only because the hairdresser had pulled her hair too tight. I did think Sally Hawkins did a very good job conveying Anne's loneliness and despair, and I loved the addition of her journalling. Very moving, and a great way to connect with the viewer, I thought. I thought it was especially so when anne was covering her mouth and sobbing after she thought Wentworth was to marry Lousia.
How on earth would Frederick convince Anne's father to sell Kellynch to an unseemly and obscure sailor, might I ask? That was the most unrealistic part, IMO, other than Anne trotting around Bath. Rather pointless, unless they wanted a breathless Anne to stand huffing and puffing before her love after she's chased him around half the city. Why was he as composed as could be and not even remotely out of breath, I'd like to know??? He was a Naval captain, not a track star. I think Cpt. Wentworth would have done better to buy Anne a pair of Nike's as opposed to a big house. ;-) lol.
Was Mrs. Smith's name really Harriet? I certainly don't remember that. I'll have to check my book later.
Oh! I almost forgot. One thing that I DID like, was that we get to hear Wentworth himself reading The Letter, not like the 1995 version where there is a double voice-over spoiling it entirely so that you can't hear a thing. I do wish they would have kept the novel's setting for it (not running by herself) but overall I liked this better than the Root/Hinds version.
*pauses, after rereading what I've written so far* I have this nasty habit of dwelling on the negatives of an adaptation, don't I? :-/ Sorry about that. I did like it though. I haven't made up my mind as to whether I'll be buying it yet, but I was very pleasantly surprised. I loved the costumes, if I did wish Anne would have worn something other than That Bonnet all the time, and the music was very lovely. I taped it (much to the dismay of my family...) so that I can watch it again at my leisure. That, for me, is the true test of a good costume drama. Either I get bored with it and have no desire to watch it more than a few times, or it grows on me more and more and I become increasingly fond of it. ;-)
Enough! I want to know what everyone else thought. :-D
ETA: Came across this article, (linked from RoP) and while I don't agree with everything this budding comedian says, I do whole-heartedly agree with this:
At the end of the film, as she is about to kiss Wentworth (oh, come on, you always knew how it comes out), her mouth twitches like a bass zeroing in on a tasty side order of plankton as her face moves slowly toward its target.
LOL!
Read the full article here
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Date: 2008-01-15 04:54 pm (UTC)I was not expecting much from this adaptation. I was pleasantly surprised and did enjoy it. [We were shown a shortened version!?! I'm outraged!!]
I greatly enjoy the 90s BBC/A&E version but see a few flaws in it as well (such as the wonderful C. Hinds being too old for the part).
This new version was enjoyable although too short. I liked Penry-Jones and S. Hawkins. I didn't like her hair though, ugg.
I was also disappointed in the way they mixed up certain lines(like the ones about women loving longest...) and left out a great many scenes for shortness that are not crucial to the story line but greatly help with character development.
I hated the fact that they had her running all the time. She ran in the concert hall and all over Bath, it would have never been done! And how may I ask does her INVALID friend come to walk with her in Bath?? I don't think her name is supposed to be Harriet either.
I also thought that Julia Davis(Elizabeth) was way too old for the role! She is in her early 40s and looks it! Elizabeth is supposed to be nearly 30. I thought Elizabeth & Mr. Elliot looked more like husband and wife instead of father & daughter.
(Mrs. Croft was a bit old as well)
I read somewhere(I can't remember which website but it was an interview with Penry-Jones) that the kiss was originally added by the actors. They were supposed to just pause and then realize they are in public(like in the book) but Rupert & Sally decided they should kiss. The director and producers liked it so they kept it in. I thought it was an extremely awkward looking kiss scene. He looked really calm and she looked somewhere between horny & hungry.
I think that's all.
On the whole, I really did enjoy but would love to see the longer version. :)
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Date: 2008-01-16 02:39 am (UTC)LOL, yes, there is quite the joke going around that Nurse Rook must be a miracle healer! ;-)
I also did not like either of Anne's sisters, and Mrs Clay was not at all as obnoxious as she should have been. I preferred the Penelope in the '95 version.
The kiss was horrible horrible horrible. End of story.